Devil's Advocate
Comedian and talk-show host Bill Maher takes on the big guy Himself in a new documentary that's sure to raise some eyebrows.
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IT ONLY TAKES a few
seconds of watching
Bill Maher to realize
that this is a man who
relishes the role of
contrarian. He was
famously fired from his show,
Politically Incorrect, in 2001 after he
argued that the 9/11 hijackers
should not be labeled as “cowards,”
a comment deemed insensitive at
the time. But this was hardly a
career killer: Maher bounced back
with several comedy specials, railing
against everything from George
W. Bush to restless leg syndrome,
and in 2003 resurrected Incorrect’s
roundtable discussion format with
HBO’s Real Time with Bill Maher.
This month Maher sets his comedic
sights higher with Religulous. We
sat down with the iconoclast to find
out just what makes religion funny.
Say your prayers….
LOS ANGELES CONFIDENTIAL:
What was the genesis, no pun
intended, for making this film?
BILL MAHER: It’s certainly a film
I’ve been trying to make for many
years. I’ve been talking about this
subject on television since 1993;
when Politically Incorrect started, it
was one of the first issues I was
thrilled to be able to get to. So it’s
been a long time coming. I always
thought this would be a funny type
of documentary movie, and I could
never find the right director. It
finally came together when I found
Larry Charles.
LAC: Why did you feel he was the
right director?
BM: One, he’s a comedy director. I
mean, he had just done Borat and he
had done Seinfeld. We had a very
similar sensibility about humor and
he and I are exactly simpatico about
how we feel about religion.
LAC: And how do you feel?
BM: I detest it!
LAC: What do you ascribe that
emotion to? Was it how you were
raised?
BM: No! It’s not emotional. The religious
people always try to cast me as
a bitter former Catholic, and I always
say, “That’s not the case, I was raised
Catholic but I was never abused and
I’m a little insulted.” [Laughs] It’s
really two-pronged: There’s an emotional
element to it but it’s not
personal. Intellectually, rationally, I
honestly believe religion is a skin that
mankind needs to shed if it’s going to
have any chance of surviving in the
21st century and beyond.
LAC: In the film you travel
around the world debating with
religious leaders and the faithful.
Why that format?
BM: Well, we wanted to go on a
journey to religious places, so we
started out in Jerusalem. The first
thing I said, in the treatment I had
written, was that if you’re going to
start off anywhere you’ve got to go
to Jerusalem. It’s the most holy city;
three faiths are there. I never saw
this as a television documentary. It’s
not something I was interested in
selling to PBS or HBO. I wanted this
to be, for a documentary, a fairly
high-budget, rollicking-Saturdaynight,
let’s-go-to-laugh kind of
movie. We didn’t want to just interview
Bill Moyers and call it a day.
LAC: What did you hope to
accomplish with it?
BM: Mostly to make an entertaining
film, to make a comedy, because the
subject of religion, and what religions
believe, is a giant load of silly
in the middle of the room. I mean,
talk about an elephant in the room
that no one’s ever pointing to or
laughing at but really is so funny….
If you can get people to just strip
away the fact that they’ve become
used to this their whole life and see
it anew, through virgin eyes, and say,
“Really? Life started in a garden
5,000 years ago with a talking snake?
And on Sunday you’re drinking the
blood of a 2,000-year-old space
God?” This is funny, funny stuff.
LAC: So the emperor has no
clothes?
BM: Yeah! It’s like, hello? I know
we all pretend this is sacred, and we
don’t laugh at it anymore, but
we should laugh at it, because if you
go back to square one and try to forget
for a second that this is holy… it’s
not holy. It’s silly. Extremely silly.
LAC: But how do you poke fun at
religion without mocking it?
BM: I always say, and I think it’s
true of this film, “I don’t make fun
of religion, it makes fun of itself.”
All I have to do is lay it bare. As far
as mocking people, I don’t think
we’re pointing fingers, trying to
belittle people. I think one reason
it’s done so extraordinarily well in
the screenings and people have
liked it so much is because it does
have a good attitude…. Really what
I say in the movie, and what I
believe, is that I don’t know what
happens when you die. People say
to me sometimes, “It could be
Jesus, couldn’t it?” Yeah, it could
be… and it could be Furby. It could
be the lint that lives in my navel. I
don’t know!
LAC: But how do you poke fun at
religion without mocking it?
BM: I always say, and I think it’s
true of this film, “I don’t make fun
of religion, it makes fun of itself.”
All I have to do is lay it bare. As far
as mocking people, I don’t think
we’re pointing fingers, trying to
belittle people. I think one reason
it’s done so extraordinarily well in
the screenings and people have
liked it so much is because it does
have a good attitude…. Really what
I say in the movie, and what I
believe, is that I don’t know what
happens when you die. People say
to me sometimes, “It could be
Jesus, couldn’t it?” Yeah, it could
be… and it could be Furby. It could
be the lint that lives in my navel. I
don’t know!
LAC: Did you have a favorite
moment or subject during the
filming?
BM: There’s this one guy, Jesus
Miranda. He believes he’s the
Second Coming of Jesus and says
he’s got a million followers around
South America, Latin America, and
Miami, where we interviewed him.
He’s a piece of work. I love him
because he had this twinkle in his
eye and little laugh, he reminded me
of Jerry Seinfeld in Seinfeld episodes
where you can see that he’s actually
breaking up in the middle of the
scene. You see him actually losing it
and not staying in character, that’s
what this guy reminded me of. He
can almost not stop himself from
laughing at his own story. That
endeared him [to me] a lot.
LAC: What kind of blowback do
you expect after the film’s
release?
BM: There will definitely be people
who don’t like it—religious people!
I also think folks will be surprised
at how many people are like I was
some years ago, in the sense that
they’re not particularly religious or
antireligious. It’s just not something
they think about a hell of a lot. If
they would think about it a little bit,
even for the 90 minutes that they’re
watching this movie, I think we
could turn a lot of heads.
Religulous opens October 3.
by Michael B.Dougherty
photograph by Brian Bowen Smith for Montage Agency
styling by Shiffy Kagan for Cloutieragency.com
makeup by Lisa Zimmitti
skincare by Yonka Paris
shot on location at The Stork
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